Monday 15 October 2012

[UPDATE: Confirmed working in the Galaxy Note 2] Sandisk 64GB Micro SDXC cards confirmed WORKING in Galaxy S II, HTC Sensation, Galaxy S, ASUS Transformer & Transformer Prime, Motorola Razr, Huawei G300, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Note 2, and Galaxy S3!



Well, the headline really says it all doesn't it. Read on anyway if you want all the nitty gritty, replete with a geeks best friend, benchmarks.

Today Fedex delivered my 64GB micro SDXC card direct from Sandisk (you have to love mail forwarding services when it comes to buying from US-only online stores). Naturally this was accompanied with the usual new-toy excitement, heightened on this occasion by knowing it would work despite Sandisk's protestations to the contrary, thanks to confirmation from two XDA users who had already received theirs (big thank you to 3waygeek and Ghost77!).

[Scroll down to the bottom for the latest update in relation to the Galaxy Note 2]


Upon inserting the card in my phone I received an error notification stating that the card was damaged. After a quick trip to Settings to format the card, the phone recognised the SDXC card and showed 59.46GB of storage available. A number of people expressed concerns that the phone may show 59GB of space, but not be able to utilise more than the first 32GB of storage, so I loaded up 47GB before trialling it in the phone to be sure. Full disclosure: my SGSII is Rooted and running a custom ROM, however there are no mods or hacks included to enable SDXC support.

At the top left you can see the ominous "Damaged Card" warning, and on the right hand side the card is recognised after formatting


So after all of that, how is it running in the phone? Virtually perfectly, so far as I can tell. I can browse all of the directories from within file managers, all my apps that utilise the external SD card continue to work as per usual, music and media plays without issue, HD video recorded to the card is identical to the same videos recorded to the internal SD. The only issue I've found so far is that the camera doesn't seem to be able to work out how many minutes of video or pictures can be taken with the available storage.


Last years Samsung flagship also seems to work perfectly
There is more good news though - I've used it in my Galaxy S on Froyo, and my HTC Sensation, and it works fine on both of these devices also (the Sensation is pure stock, the SGSI is on Darky's custom ROM, again this is not a ROM with any kind of support for SDXC baked in). I would have checked it on my ASUS Transformer, but alas I cannot find the charger at the moment. [That being the case I need to divert momentarily to rant: proprietary connectors suck! Please manufacturers, get this into your thick skulls: they are bad for consumers and we don't like them. Stop using them!] OK, back on track. If you were following the paragraphs first sentence you will have noted that it works in handsets of varying ages, over multiple OS versions, and from more than one manufacturer. This encourages me to speculate that these cards will work in a far, far larger spectrum of devices than Sandisk has indicated.

HTC's Sensation showing it also has what it takes
I'm not sure why Sandisk isn't shouting this from the rooftops, to be perfectly honest. Certainly the business case for massively increasing the market for your product seems fairly clear. Perhaps its because the vaunted claims of 30MB/s transfer speeds are unattainable if you elect not to use the default exFat formatting, or perhaps its because Sandisk has agreed with partner companies to pretend it will only work for you if you purchase the latest and greatest to use it in (for the sake of clarity that second reason is said tongue firmly in cheek... now where did I put that tin foil hat?) If you're out there Sandisk, I'd love to hear from you on the issue.

In regards to discovering what transfer speeds are possible, I benchmarked the card in the phone via a USB connection to my PC. Crystaldiskmark gave the following results:


The large sequential write speed - the first of the benchmark figures there - is probably the one that's going to have the most relevance to users since it's applicable to the most intensive read/write tasks the phone is likely to handle in encoding and decoding HD video. While it falls short of the max speeds Sandisk has thrown about, both the read and write speeds are easily in excess of what is required for HD content, so there isn't really anything to be particularly unhappy about. In any case, who are you going to complain to? It's not as if Sandisk meant for you to put it in a Galaxy S II, much less format it Fat32.

For interest, here is how my Class 2 Sandisk 32GB micro SDHC card benchmarks:


Comparing the two we can see that the SDXC card has much better read scores across the board, however after large sequential writes, its write performance tails off fairly drastically in comparison to the older Class 2 card. Whether that equates to any in-phone performance difference remains to be seen -  I have a non-Sandisk 32GB card with speeds much slower than the SDXC card for small writes and no problems there, so I suspect its largely a  non-issue. Of course these comparisons do need to be taken with something of a grain of salt, since I'm obviously not using the SDXC as Sandisk intends.

With that thought in mind it would be remiss of me not to include some kind of weasel-words disclaimer here. In brief: if you choose to use one of these cards in a device the manufacturer does not endorse, you do so at your own risk. If your card corrupts, your phone dies, you lose those precious pictures of your miniature poodle, or the universe implodes, I am in no way liable or responsible for any ill effects related to your using this card in your device against the manufacturers express instructions.

If it all goes pear-shaped, you will have to plead your case with whoever supplies your warranty (helpful hint: you will probably need to come up with something better than "this guy on the internets with a blog said it worked" when you discuss it with them).

Alright, now that I've completely doused your enthusiasm with that disclaimer, that's enough out of me. I wonder how many out there will need the storage space more than the rather significant wad of cash it costs to purchase one of these? If you're inspired to have more storage on your device, knowing now that they work, drop me a line in the comments below.

Time to sign off for the night. Next up? I haven't a clue.

[UPDATE]

Quick line to confirm these are working in the Note also, no problems whatsoever:

Nope, I still haven't got tired of annotating screenshots with my Note!

...and now we can confirm these are working in the Motorola Razr too:

Hello Moto!

[UPDATE] Now confirmed working in the ASUS Transformer Prime also, and even better - ASUS have added support for NFTS formatting which means no more 4GB file size limits raining on your HD movie parade!

[UPDATE] As expected working in the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 also...


[UPDATE] Confirmed working in the Galaxy S III - for the first time on a stock Android firmware with FULL exFAT support!

Hi everyone!

I'm really pleased to bring you the exclusive first confirmation that not only do these work with the Galaxy S III, but they also feature full exFAT formatting support (as we speculated they would based on Samsung's announcement in concert with Supercurio's analysis).

I was fortunate enough to have a couple of hours of undisturbed hands-on time with the Galaxy S III this afternoon, so naturally in advance I formatted a 64GB micro SDXC card to exFAT and copied over about 40GB of FLAC songs, video files and emulator ROMS.

First, the great news: the card works perfectly in the S III, there was no warning that the card was damaged like there is when they are placed into devices that don't support exFAT, all files worked without issues, and furthermore the media scanner was extremely quick.

The not so great news? I was unable to benchmark the card in the phone. I was blocked first of all by an ICS issue; it only connects to the PC via MTP, and that doesn't play nicely with the benchmarking software. Next I tried to benchmark the card with on-phone apps, however Samsung have changed the mount location of the external SD card, so those apps were unable to 'see' the card.

I did of course benchmark the card on a PC with two different readers. Interestingly the two results differed depending on the card reader. On one the large sequential read and write speeds were significantly improved, while small read speeds were diminished, and small write speeds were essentially unchanged. On the other, large read and write speeds showed only a modest improvement, but small write speeds virtually doubled. I've put both results below for you.

Unknown brand card reader


Sandisk card reader

So it seems we still have a little more investigating to do in terms of determining the cards in-phone performance when we next have time with it at it's commercial release.

To end on a more definitive note though I can confirm that the Fat32 file size limit of 4GB is no longer present, so for others who like watching high quality 1080p content from their phone on HDTVs via MHL the S3 has a clear point of differentiation in it's favour here.

Oh, and make sure to keep it locked here to AndroidNZ - in just a little while I'll be posting up my impressions of the Galaxy S III, including results of some of the other functionality I tested (and we'll see if AndroidNZ gets a passing grade on it's "Secrets Revealed" pieces).

[UPDATE] Confirmed working in the Nokia Pureview 808! Be prepared for a reasonably long initial wait for the media scanner to index the card though (must be formatting Fat32, natch).


[UPDATE] ...and yet another confirmation that the card works - this time in Huawei's budget G300 handset, brilliant stuff! Naturally it needs to be formatted Fat32 here, and you will definitely want to install PowerAMP in order to reduce media scanning and exclude your music folder/s from the inbuilt system scanner (which is sloooooowwwwww). All in all, an excellent capability in a budget handset!



[UPDATE] Just usual confirmation that the card works with the Note 2, formatted to exFat too, so same support as the S3 has there...


151 comments:

  1. But it'll fall back to mSDHC (class 10 at best) R/W performance if the ph in Qn doesn't support SD3.0.
    Alas SGSII only supports SD2.0, still not clear if Samsung will provide updates later.

    Still, tis nice to have the extra capacity if one needs it, & can afford it.
    But you're not also getting the extra performance mSDXC's meant to bring.
    And you're still left with FAT32's file-size limitation... :(

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  2. Good points. For me Fat32 limitations and slower speeds are vastly outweighed by the fact that I can now have a 64GB card in my phone, which is an entirely unexpected benefit (before getting the card I would have thought there would be a hardware requirement for compatibility, as there was with SDHC cards when they came out), and when you consider that I'm already accustomed to those limitations in existing cards. Certainly when our mobile devices can support exFAT it will be welcome.

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  3. Wats that App by which you ver flipping between different screens with ur backgrounds remaining the same?? can we know ??

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  4. please try this 64 gb memory card with Nokia N8 and please tell me weather it is working or not?please I need your help! you could send your reply to "vasishtanagalla@gmail.com", please dude...!

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  5. The Launcher is LauncherPro Plus (and wallpaper is the live one from Ubermusic).

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  6. I will try it in an N8 if I come across one, for sure.

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  7. do you have a plan to test it on an lg optimus 2x

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  8. Again, if I get any chance I will (goes for all Android's, I may be able to try them at an Android meetup soon).

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  9. Thanks for the news, I'm glad to hear this.

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  10. Where did you buy it... I'm in Canada and it seems sandisk doesn't have one avaliable to ship here

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  11. Hi there! I got mine shipped from the US online Sandisk store to New Zealand by using a mail forwarding service called Shipito. Used them quite a few times now, top notch.

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  12. Transcend offers a class 10 micro sdxc while the sandisk is class 4. will the transcend still work you think?

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    1. Sandisk also has a Class 10..google is your friend.

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  13. Just come across this (via MoDaCo), nice review. I've popped you into my favourites :) Thanks.

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  14. @Anon1: I think the Transcend one you're talking about is probably 32GB Class 10 Micro SDHC, not SDXC like this one? It should work regardless.

    @Anon2: Cheers!

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  15. So pumped for this! I'll wait a little while in case the price goes down, but I wants!! Thanks for the experiment dude!

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    1. Thanks for this reviews.. im going to get one once price fall.. lol.. Now sgd $196.

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  16. Getting my new Galaxy Tab on Wednesday; however, it's only a 16GB version. That said, I have Samsung's USB and memory expansion kit on the way (basically a card reader that plugs into the 30 pin port). Coming from a 32GB G-Slate, I was a little let down by the fact that I'd only be getting 16GB; however, I was stoked to find the memory card adapter to add an SD. If I can throw a 64GB SDXC in there, that'll flippin' rock. I'll be sure to report back and let you know about the compatibility; however, based on the fact that this'll be running Honeycomb 3.2, I'm sure it'll be fine. :-)

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  17. Even more reason to get the Note now! OMGZ!

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  18. I LOVE the Note screen cap with on board editing. Bahaha! Amazing, can't wait till mine ships in a few days!

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  19. But it'll fall back to mSDHC (class 10 at best) R/W performance if the ph in Qn doesn't support SD3.0.
    Alas SGSII only supports SD2.0, still not clear if Samsung will provide updates later.

    Will we see SD3.0/exFAT in ICS 4.0 devices?
    The only ICS4.0 due this yr is the Nexus, but it has no mSD.
    Will we have to wait till SGSIII?

    Tis nice to have the extra capacity if one needs it, & can afford it.
    But you're not also getting the extra performance mSDXC's meant to bring.
    And you're still left with FAT32's file-size limitation... :(

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  20. You did post that earlier Jed! But worth repeating, as you're quite right.

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  21. Yeah I'd love to know if we'll see exfat/sd3.0 support from OEM's for older devices.

    Or if it will only be available for devices that run ICS4x or newer.
    Assuming it's even there for ICS4x.

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  22. Isn't the high 4k reads on the 64gb to be preferred over the low 4k writes on the 32gb, if you use the disk for music/movies and recording video/photos ?

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  23. @Chekov

    There is an inherent adv. going higher capacity.
    That's just the nature of the medium.
    But it's somewhat bottle-necked until a move to exfaxt/sd3.0.

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  24. sn't the high 4k reads on the 64gb to be preferred over the low 4k writes COMPARED to the 32gb, if you use the disk for music/movies and recording video/photos?

    was what i meant to ask..

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  25. got the 64 gig card and a Galaxy Player 5.0 to hook it up to in the mail from Amazon, hope it works well, but if not, keeping the card as am waiting for the Note to be released in the U.S. to be my phablet!

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  26. @chekov

    No idea what you're trying to say.

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  27. Likewise not too sure exactly what you are trying to say @Chekov - I can reassure you that media playback on either the 32GB or 64GB is just fine regardless. Is that what you needed to know?

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  28. To clarify, from my understanding 4k random reads are directly proportional with access time.
    So higher 4k reads should be more important than higher 4k writes if you use the card for music/videos. This is my understanding, please enlighten me if I'm right or wrong.

    (I've read that a class 10 microsdhc card might not be optimal for certain smartphone uses, I guess installing apps on the card. But I haven't found any confirmation on this being the case..)

    And thanks for great reviews/posts NZteckfreak!

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  29. @Chekov

    That doesn't smell quite right to me.
    Most of my knowledge relating to I/O theory & RW-usage for this media & cousins has become rusty in the past 12mth+.

    I'd recommend asking the same questions at xtremesystems in the storage sub-forum.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?62-Storage

    There are some very clued-up heads there.
    One user that really knows his stuff is Gulllars, there's a handful of others.

    More of a long-shot is the xtreme mobile sub-forum.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?278-Xtreme-Mobile

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  30. While waiting for the Note to get here, I thought I'd try the Samsung Galaxy 5.0 player as a phone through bluetooth hookup to my lappy, using my Google voice number to receive calls? can be done?

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  31. @male46

    Nothing to do with this post...
    Best asking in a dedicated forum.
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=564

    Folks subscribed to this post...
    Only want to discuss the subject matter.

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  32. Please can you try to format to ext3 and see what Gnote said ?

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  33. Does any one know if this card will work with Verizon Wirless Pantech Hotshot. Has any one tried it with pantech phones because I dont want to go out and buy this card and then have it not work in my phone. Thanks

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  34. Anyone found out about the Nokia N8 compatibility of this card yet?

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  35. Has anyone tried it on a Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray ST18i?

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  36. I like to comment on the speed obtained, those are the actual speed offered by the card, and does meet sandisk claim, whether it's sdhc or sdxc, the speed set out by the sd association is 24-25m/b max for read speed and 20m/b max for write, to obtain the stated 30m/b speed you need to use a hardware that support UHS 1 specification, which no phone supports at the moment.

    also sd/micro sd with size upto 2GB are not rated in classes like sdhc/sdxc.

    that being said, i will be getting the sandisk 64GB next month to try out, and just to let you know. i have purchased the sandisk microsdhc 16GB UHS 1, which was released at the same time as the microsdxc, and using the kingston multi card reader (fastest reader available) i have obtained the readings as follows:

    read speed 38m/b and write speed 7.5-8m/b.

    and thanks to all that has tested these cards, it's very useful information.

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  37. Getting SDXC to work is cool! Doesn't 7MBps write suck though??!! It will take more than 10 minutes to download a HD movie.. I hope the phone makers migrate to USB 3.0 soon. I hear 100MBps is possible with USB 3.0 and the right controller.

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  38. Does this work in the htc amaze 4g?

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  39. Hi Does it work with Samsung Galaxy Ace?

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  40. @Anon: Not confirmed it myself but a user commented on my YouTube video that it is working in his Galaxy Ace.

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  41. Hi does it work with the LG Optimus One (P500)
    Thanks:)))))

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  42. @Patrick: Sorry, haven't got an Optimus One handy to confirm for you. Perhaps try asking at the XDA Optimus One forums?

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  43. Just to add I took the plunge and purchased one for my HTC Desire. It's working fine, i've even got an ext4 partition on it for app2sd+.

    The SD tools app reports a write speed of 5.6mb and a read of 18.2mb.

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  45. From what I can see it seems that the card will most likely work on android devices that can normally use micro SDHC cards, so is it fair to say that it will work on an Acer Iconia A500?

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  46. The 64GB Sandisk card works great on my AT&T-branded Inspire 4G (rooted, rom - Android Revolution HD 6.3.1) with my 46G mp3 collection. I would expect it would work on the Desire HD as well (same hardware)

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  47. Will this 64 gb card work on any basic phones? Or does it only work on some smart phones? Or does it only work if you format it. I only care about the amount of space it can hold. I could care less about the mg speed.

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  48. This just badass Iam buying the best Tablet in the world the Asus Prime and really wanted to get all the memory possible without a external hardrive and really wanted to have more then just the 94gb that I thought I was going to be limited to from just being able to only use 32g in the slot. Thanks allot. Just wanted to know weather this will work on the Evo which really is a HTC Sensation as I have 32 but if I can have 64 just by formatting I will for show want to take advantage thanks.

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  49. Great blog.
    Great news.
    Ordered one for my sensation.
    Great.
    Thank you :-)

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  50. Hello!, first of all congratulation for your blog and your youtube channel; they both are fantastic.

    I would like to ask you something (im about to buy a phone, but im hesitating between sensation xe and galaxy note)
    which one do you know has the better video camera?? (i noticed that galaxy note doesn't have manual focus on video cam right? is there any application to get a manual focus??)
    thank you

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  51. @Anon: Thanks for your comments! Sorry about the delay in responding, missed this comment earlier. I'm not aware of any apps that will give manual focus in the video camera, but there may be some out there. If the Note's size is something you can handle then I would easily recommend it over the Sensation XE, it has a better CPU/GPU, much better screen, better stills camera (not sure about video), better video playback, better GPS, better gaming credentials, better peripherals support (bluetooth and USB), better browsing experience...

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  52. Hello everybody, do know if this card is working in a Sony Ericsson Xperia mini pro? Thx

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  53. @The sub: can't personally confirm that, but it's worked in every Android device I've tried it in so I would be surprised if it didn't also work with the Mini Pro also.

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    1. @NZtechfreak: I tried it in a mini pro, and it works!

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  54. at this point, maybe best to just list the devices it has failed in (if any)

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  55. My own findings show that a test size of only 50MB allow the card to cheat the benchmark. Can you increase the test size to 512MB and see what random write performance you get with 4KB blocks then? I suspect you'll find it to be much, much lower.

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  56. CAN YOU TELL ME IF THIS CARD WORKS WITH THE SAMSUNG GALAXY PLAYER 5.0??? PLEASE I REALLY WANNA GET ONE AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT GREAT ADVANTAGE

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  57. Hmmm, and would you suppose if it works on the HTC Sensation that it might be possible as well on an older HTC-HD2 with android on board ?
    thanks ;)

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  58. @Anon: No idea about the Galaxy Player, haven't got one to test it with. It has worked on EVERY device I've tried it in so I expect it will work (obviously cannot guarantee that).

    @Gary: I expect it'll probably work there too, but I don't have an HD2 any more (one of the few phones I've owned that I still miss this much longer down the line). Try asking at XDA-developers in their HD2 forum, someone there can probably confirm it for you.

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  59. FYI, I got a Sandisk 64gb working on an HTC Thunderbolt.

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  60. Where is the best place to get this card? The only NZ place I can find it is at PB Tech for $205.85.
    http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MEMSDK3264&name=SanDisk-64GB-Mobile-Ultra-microSDXC-UHS-memory-car
    Thanks.

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  61. 208$ ?? wow in my country you can buy it for like 106$

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  62. Well! I have a same card but in GNote it says blank card and also unavailabe in settings after formating still the same problem.Also in windows 7 it says it needs to be format but window unable to formate it
    So please any help?

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  63. First of all:

    1.Formatting to fat32 and filling up the 64 gb microsdxc, does it bring any problems after a month of read/write use?
    That s really important, especially for our data.

    2.Older phones like my motorola milestone xt720 with custom rom 2.3.7 cyanogen mod 7 will work having sdxc 64gb fat32?

    Please try answering both of my questions, cause xda-developers forum is making it a mess...

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    1. Hi there!

      I've had no problems and I've been using this card in my devices since I wrote this back in October last year.

      I can't state for certain without having used it myself in those older devices, but I'm pretty sure it will work - it was working in my Galaxy S on a Froyo ROM after all.

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    2. You formatted it to fat32 with 64gb in all of your tested devices, or there was a case you had to divide it to 2x32?

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  64. Anyone know if the 64gb card will work with the new Motorola Droid 4?

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    1. They basically work in every android device that anyone has tried them in, so I'm sure it does (also appears to be confirmed by the user in the comments below).

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  65. Motorola droid 4 works with 64gb microsdxc as long as its formatted to fat32.

    It was tested in several forums, by many owners.

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  66. Has anyone seen confirmation of the card working in a Motorola Defy+? Haven't found anyone who tried it.

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  67. and it also working with sdxc 128gb ?

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    1. Do they even exist? I haven't seen any store selling 128 gb micro-sdxc yet.

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  68. I just bought one and I need to know how to format it to fat32 while it is in my computer because it will not format in the phone. It keeps saying to re insert it and once I try to format it says no card.

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    1. Use a card reader and format it in the computer that way (from memory right clicking the drive in My Computer should give you a reformatting option which is by default set to Fat32).

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  69. So if I understand this right, then the 32GB version of this (mobile Ultra) will be faster than the 64GB because it's not reformatted? Is that right? A lot faster in real life?

    Just tossing up which card to get for a SE mini pro and asus transformer.

    Am only concerned about speed when it comes to saving videos and photos that I shoot on the phone camera. I'm assuming playing music and videos should have no troubles either way?

    Thanks to whoever is able to answer my questions.

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    1. Not sure about whether the 32GB version is faster, doesn't really matter that much - this one writes plenty fast for saving video and photos to the phone.

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    2. Great, thanks for that, I have already ordered one of these babies from Canada for about AU$103 (so a bit more in Kiwi$) including postage.

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  70. James From The University of Alabama17 April 2012 at 17:44

    I posted on here a couple other times as anonymous. I bought the 64gb micro sd card on amazon. It did take a while to get it to work in my verizon wireless basic phone the Samsung bright side. However it works great now. Just dont format it in the samsung bright side because some how this phone messess it up when you format it. I was unable to format it in my computer as fat 32 even with a card reader for some reason I am unsure why. So basically I took it to a buddys house and he formatted it with the orginal samsung galexy. Which worked great in the samsung bright side. I then thought scince it is now fat 32 I can format it in the Samsung bright side. That was a bad idea cause it did not work. It messed it up. So then I stuck it in my old verizon wireless LG voyager and formated it in the voyager which worked great. Then I put it back into the samsung bright side and it was able to read it. It was a confusing process but it all worked out in the end because
    1. It works in the Samsung brightside the only problem I have come in contact with is that it takes a while to update your music library. If you just put songs on it. but other than that it works pretty good.
    2. It works in my old LG voyager. It works best in the voyager in my opinion. But my voyager was falling a part after 4 years of use so I have to use the brighside. I guess they just dont make phones as good as they use to.
    BUT CAUTION WHAT EVER YOU DO DONT FORMAT IT IN THE SAMSUNG BRIGHTSIDE, FORMAT IT IN ANOTHER PHONE OR A SMART PHONE!!!!!!!
    ALSO DONT TELL IN BEST BUY OR VERIZON WIRELESS STORES THAT YOU WERE USING A 64GB MICRO SD CARD IN YOUR PHONE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE A PHONE BACK OR TRYING TO OBATAIN A WARRENTY BECAUSE THEY GIVE SOME BULLSHIT EXCUSE OF HOW IT VOIDS THE WARRENTY OR THE RETURN POLICY.

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  71. Anyone have success using a 64GB Fat32 with a Galaxy 7 Plus? I cannot get it to read the card, nor can I format it in the tablet.

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  72. Great blog.

    I just ordered mine for my Galaxy Note.
    here's the eBay store where I bought it.
    http://stores.ebay.com.sg/Sincerity-Memory-Computer-Accessory/_i.html?_nkw=Micro+SDXC&submit=Search&_sid=869066348

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  73. I was already looking fondly at the Note in my newegg cart, after seeing this (and your youtube demo of the Note playing some flawless 720p video in DicePlayer) I'm over the edge.

    Did you know it even works as a phone, too? :D

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    1. Wait, you mean to say I can make phone calls on my Note?!

      ;p

      If you think you're over the edge now try reading my complete review here!

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  74. In theory the access speeds could be improved by formatting the card in a PC with a larger cluster size:

    "In addition, the preformatted file system may use a cluster size that matches the erase region of the physical memory on the card; reformatting may change the cluster size and make writes less efficient." -- Wikpedia

    I imagine this may also require the start block to be set to a multiple of 8 on some systems, for the clusters to align with erase regions. There are disk alignment guides on the web.


    On a side note, it also states SDHC is forwards compatible with SDXC, except for newer features just as discovered here.

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  75. Will this memory card work on an HTC EVO 3D phone.?

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  76. Happily working on my stock H3G 4.0.3 S2. I also tested it on my old N96 for fun and appears to work fine there too...

    http://puu.sh/vyo7

    (The main internal memory become corrupted and impossible to format, hence why no storage size for it)

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    1. AH, thanks for that - been waiting to hear about whether these work in Nokia's (I always assumed they did, but always nice to have confirmation from an actual user). Do they also work with exFAT in the Nokia's? Is it working exFAT in your S2? If so that is very interesting, because that means Samsung have loaded their proprietary kernel on that ICS firmware... It definitely didn't work on stock before with exFAT formatting.

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    2. exFAT is not recognised in either device. I wish google would add NTFS support to android since then you could get around the 4GB file size limit of FAT32, and it would also be able to mount external HDDs via the host cable etc.

      Thanks for your initial review/video showing this works. It's because of that why I decided to take a punt and get one for myself

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    3. No worries, glad to be of service and thank you very much for taking the time to give us feedback about these in your own devices.

      I'm sure we'll see wider formatting support now that the S3 has bolted the gate with exFAT support!

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  77. I would also add that the camera video recording minutes left seems to be reporting correctly. I get 11 hours or so 720p, but with lower resolutions the timer has a max of 23:59:59. I don't think it's that the phone can't read the full size of the card, because you can also max out the timer the same way if you use internal memory and set a low res like 176x144.

    It looks like this card is 100% compatible with the S2

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    1. Is that with exFAT though???

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    2. Just plain old FAT32. For some reason the S2 wouldn't format the card when it was inserted blank, so I had to format it in Windows using Easeus partition master as there is an artificial 32GB partition size limit for FAT32 on systems XP and above (I used to have a Windows ME machine with a 240GB RAID array, so I know FAT32 is fine for that, and the specs say up to 2TB anyway).

      Once I formatted it, the phone picked it up no problem. I formatted it in the phone just to make sure and it worked this time and gained a tiny bit extra storage (0.1GB) through formatting it in the phone too.

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  78. "it only connects to the PC via MTP"

    whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :(

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  79. My 64 GB card is full! I am desperately waiting for 128 GB. Go ahead, Sandisk!

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    1. Definitely with you on that!

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    2. isn't there a maximum of 2TB?

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    3. Yep, that is the limit for SDXC according to Sandisk!

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  80. Sandisk says on their website that "All SanDisk memory cards and flash drives come pre-formatted and do not need to be formatted out of the box. They are formatted with the following standards:
    - FAT for 2GB or lower capacity
    - FAT32 for 4GB to 32GB capacities
    - exFAT for 64GB or higher capacities"
    Should I still format the 64GB MicroSD card I plan to use with the Galaxy S3? If so, should I format it (exFAT) using the pc (Win7) or the S3? Will the S3 turn it to FAT32? I'd really like some advice as I don't want to void the warrenty or damage the phone/card in any way. Thanks.

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    1. The S3 is the only phone currently with exFAT support, you don't have to do anything with the card, just put it in the S3 and everything will work out of the box.

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  81. Best Buy had a one day sale for this class 6 card of $50 USD June 11 NZT so worth keeping an eye out for if you can arrange shipping via ship to.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/SanDisk+-+Mobile+Ultra+64GB+microSDXC+Class+6+Memory+Card/4120116.p?id=1218457270220&skuId=4120116&st=4120116&cp=1&lp=1

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  82. is there a difference between the sandisk class 6 and class 10 64gb cards? both of them are branded as ultra and both packaging indicates performance at 30MB/sec... perhaps you can benchmark the card using exFAT formatting on S3 using the App SDCardTester

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.anotherflexdev.sdcardtester.SDCardTester&hl=en

    you can indicate the new location of the card in S3 so you wont get error message this time.. thanks!

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    1. The class 6 one has a slower write speed although they both do 30mb/sec read, from memory. I could be wrong.

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  83. hi there can not wait too get a 64 sdxc card best buy has a 64 gb 25 mb/s card for $50 and frys eltronics has a 64 gb sd card with 50 mb/s read 35 mb/s write speed for $58 i am getting it for my 3ds

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    1. I have looked on Frys site for a 64gb SD card for $58 and cant find anything like that. is this a Micro SD card?

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  84. Thanks NZtechfreak. I used your post in my guide on using the SII as a photo backup device.
    http://soapbox9.wordpress.com/2012/07/08/best-travel-photo-backup-solution-the-samsung-galaxy-sii/

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  85. Any news on whether or not the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus will recognize the 64gb card?

    Would you need to reformat it in the tablet or via Windows?

    Thanks!

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    1. You should be able to format it in the tablet and it will work (not personally confirmed, but everything these cards has ever been used in they have worked formatted to Fat32.

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  86. Dear NZtechfreak, I have a Galaxy Note 16GB and I am confused… My Note will support the microsdxc 64gb with exFAT or do I have to give it a FAT32 format so the Note recognize it… Please help so I know if it worth to buy the card..

    Thanks a lot!!

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    1. Must be Fat32 formatted in the Note (but still well worth it IMO!).

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  87. "I was blocked first of all by an ICS issue; it only connects to the PC via MTP"

    I only have the SII, but it works as mass storage in ICS (settings -> Wireless and network -> more -> USB utilities). Is the SIII different?

    It would be more interesting to see how exfat and fat32 compare using an in-phone benchmark when they better support ICS though.

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    1. Yeah, you can do it on the Note too on ICS, but it is different in the SIII.

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  88. The new Asus Transformer Infinity does not recognize the 64 Gb Micro SDXC, neither as FAT32 nor as exFAT and NTFS.

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    1. Wow, really?! That would be the first device ever not to work with it on Fat32 at the very least. You're sure you have a genuine card?

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  89. The card works flawlessly with the Samsung Note when formatted as FAT32. So did another one. I tested them both with the Transformer Infinity - no luck. And I'm not the only one... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761861)

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    1. Hmmn, very strange that one then. Thanks for the info, sorry, had to ask about whether it's a genuine card as that accounts for every problem I've tended to see with 64GB cards.

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  90. @NZtechfreak, is your 64gb labelled UHS1? Or just plain SDXC?

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  91. why does SDA spec still NOT bother to include EXT2?? Better user CONTROL of which app MAY NOT write to MY card ;) fat of any flavor is as useless as sms on a smart phone.

    (XMPP trumps sms)


    myopenid dot com blogger auth very broken still

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  92. why does SDA spec still NOT bother to include EXT2?? Better user CONTROL of which app MAY NOT write to MY card ;) fat of any flavor is as useless as sms on a smart phone.

    (XMPP trumps sms)


    myopenid dot com blogger auth very broken still

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  93. SDSDQUA..U46G

    is afaik sdhc UHS1 class 10 mobile ultra 32

    SDSDQY..

    is class 6 mobile ultra 32

    I haven't decoded for 64gig flavors or sdXc flavors

    I would love a matrix for USA and other markets in one place starting at 16gig

    XMPP with OTR decimates sms

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  94. I have been exclusively Motorola.. but since the Google acquisition I have jumped ship for Samsung (sgs III, Vzw) as they have the second best audio fidelity but apparently sgs3 antennae less than stellar but not evil inside.

    better yet allegedly miui on sgs3 does not have audio tranquil with csipsimple

    better sdXc support than motor, faster RW than motor sdXc, more forward SDA thinking than moto.


    moving away from fat is what I await eagerly

    death to sms

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  95. I have seen the Sandisk SDXC 128gb card for sale, does it work with a Samsung Galaxy S2?

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  96. I have seen the Sandisk SDXC 128gb card for sale, would this work with the Samsung Galaxy S2?

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  97. I have a s3 and just ordered a 32gb microsd. After reading this I wish I had paid for the 64 but oh well. Only thing this card is for is hd movie playback. Given I have ability to use exfat should I to lose the 4gb file limit? Also what is the better format to encode to from mkv and any suggestions on ripping software?

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    1. The S3 can play MKV, so need to re-encode to anything else, just get nice high-bitrate MKVs and you're golden. If you're going to be regularly using HD movie files >4GB then you should reformat to exFAT (if you're going to Root etc then there are custom kernels that will allow NTFS also).

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  98. Hei has any one tried 64GB microsd on the LG Optimus 4XHD?

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    1. I haven't heard of a user-confirmation, but when formatted to Fat32 it works in basically everything, so I'm 99.9999% sure it'll work in the 4XHD.

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  99. Ooooo...... Does does this foreshadow the possibility of a Note 2 review?

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    1. Well spotted Lou! Was just going to do a "Note 2 at the blog" piece to alert everyone to the incoming review, but theres no getting anything past you is there!

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  100. Thank you for the info! Just bought one of these 64GB bad buys and was worried it would not work on my soon-to-be new Phablet, the Galaxy Note 2. Very happy to know the GN2 does support extFAT.

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  101. Just to share my experience. I had 2 64gb Sandisk class 10 die on me within an hour on my tab plus and Archos 101. Received my RMA and they seemed to work perfectly.......for a month. Both just died on me, one on 31 October, and the next on 1 November.

    Try copying a large file from your internal memory to the sd card from your android device using a file manager like ES File explorer. Get ready to say goodbye to your card. If it dies on you, there is no way to format the card, even using the sd formatter, paragon, easus, or gparted.

    Seems that the 64gb class 10 Sandisk cards either have quality issues, or android devices can't handle them.

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    1. When you say 'large file'... are you be willing to shed some light on the number specifics? Just how big was the file?

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    2. I see that a number of people have had issues, no idea what causes them, possibly bad batches of cards from Sandisk? I've used two different cards, one for a year, and one for 6 months and had zero troubles with either. Have even watched a 6gb 1080p video on the device without issues.

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    3. My typo. It was actually a folder with 61 files for a total of 312mb with the largest at about 56mb.

      How did you watch a 6gb video if you reformated it to fat32???

      Another point to note is that using MTP mode (using cable to transfer files to sd card rather than ejecting the card and using a card reader) caused the card to be corrupted and beyond saving.

      Many users of the Sandisk class 10 cards do not have any issues with the card,...yet. Or maybe it was just my luck to have 4 cards fail on me. Maybe they were from the same batch?

      Just to be safe, DO NOT save any important files or pictures on the Sandisk class 10 cards.

      I've used other microsd cards with no problems whatsoever. Even brandless cards have lasted me for 10 years!

      Maybe there's a reason why the manufacturers states that the phones/tablets supports up to 32gb. I think only the s3 supports up to 64gb out of the box, i.e it reads exfat formated cards.

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  102. At work so I haven't had time to read all the way down through but just a comment. Using the 64GB SanDisk Ultra microSDXC UHS-I card in my Galaxy Note 2, the phone's status changes to Modified and, as a result, I can't receive OTA updates to Android. Also, the Samsung Video Hub won't let me change the default storage to external SD (which I CAN do with my 32GB PNY MicroSD). I spoke with someone at SanDisk and they recommended that I reformat the card to FAT32 using a utility at www.sdcard.org (not to use the standard Windows format). I haven't tried it yet.

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  103. I have the Sandisk microSDXC 64GB card. I inserted it in to my Galaxy Note 2 and formatted the SD card. I am NOT able to copy files larger than 4GB on to it though. I also tried using SDFromatter from my PC with a SD card reader. I formatted it to Exfat but I am not able to copy any files larger than 4GB which is the limit for FAT32 file system. The error message is "It's file size is larger than the device limit. Any ideas how to resolve this? Thanks.

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    1. So did you find the answer for this issue, because I have the exactly the same problem?

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  104. I have the Sandisk microSDXC 64GB card. I inserted it in to my Galaxy Note 2 and did the Format SD card. I was not able to copy any files to it larger than 4GB. I also tried the SDFormatter application on my PC with a SD card reader to exfat format. I'm still not able to copy larger than 4GB files to the SD card. The error message I get is "It's file size is larger than the device limit". The file was about 7GB in size. Any ideas how to resolve this?

    Thanks,
    Bob

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  105. I have the Sandisk microSDXC 64GB card. I inserted it in to my Galaxy Note 2 and did the Format SD card. I was not able to copy any files to it larger than 4GB. I also tried the SDFormatter application on my PC with a SD card reader to exfat format. I'm still not able to copy larger than 4GB files to the SD card. The error message I get is "It's file size is larger than the device limit". The file was about 7GB in size. Any ideas how to resolve this?

    Thanks,
    Bob

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  106. I have a read-only issue with a 64gb mSD on a Galaxy Note 2. I've formatted it in both exFAT and FAT32 but I'm not able to edit files (any file large or small) once the card is mounted in the phone. Take it out of the phone and I can edit files. I have no issues writing to or reading the files - only editing. I must "save as" instead of being able to write-over. Is there a limitation I'm un-aware of? Thanks to anyone who can shed light on this for me.

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    1. I'm not sure what that's all about. I've had my card for about a month now, formatted to FAT32 but no issues exist such as those. Really, I'm interested to see what others have to say.

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  107. Hi Folks,

    I was inspired by your fantastic investigation and as I just got SAMSUNG Galaxy Note GT-I9220 with Android 4.0.4 (bought in China as I live in China) I wanted to use a microSDXC 64GB so I bought the following card on amazon.com/cn (see link below)

    SanDisk 闪迪 microSDXC Class10 64GB至尊高速移动存储卡 UHS-1制式 读写速度最高可达30MB/s Modellnr: SDSDQUA-064G-U46A

    on amazon.de you find the same model:
    SANDISK 64GB Ultra Android microSDXC Card Class 10 bi-coloured Card + SD Adapter + Memory Zone Android App (same Modell nr.)

    at first it was not recognized at my SAMSUNG phone, so I insert it to my Windows PC and wanted to format it with the on board Windows tools but it only showed the option NTFS and exFAT. So I used ACRONIS DISK DIRECTOR (Vers 11) and formated the microSDXC to FAT32 (Quickformat, so done in a few seconds). I asume any 3rd PArty Software which offers you to choose FAT32 will be fine too.

    Next I inserted the microSD into my SAMSUNG and it suddenly recognized it ...to be sure I formated the microSD with the SAMSUNG phone as described in this article and ...

    ...IT WORKS

    Have fun
    Le_Tifou

    http://www.amazon.de/SANDISK-Android-microSDXC-bi-coloured-Adapter/dp/B007WTAJTO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356771781&sr=8-1


    http://www.amazon.cn/SanDisk-%E9%97%AA%E8%BF%AA-microSDXC-Class10-64GB%E8%87%B3%E5%B0%8A%E9%AB%98%E9%80%9F%E7%A7%BB%E5%8A%A8%E5%AD%98%E5%82%A8%E5%8D%A1-UHS-1%E5%88%B6%E5%BC%8F-%E8%AF%BB%E5%86%99%E9%80%9F%E5%BA%A6%E6%9C%80%E9%AB%98%E5%8F%AF%E8%BE%BE30MB-s/dp/B007WTAJTO/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1356670299&sr=1-1


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  108. Anyone tried it in the Samsung Galaxy Camera ?

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    1. No that I'm aware of, I am sure it will work if formatted Fat32, since formatted that way it works in everything I've ever tried it in. No idea about whether it will work formatted to exFat.

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  109. can anyone confirm if this 64gb card works on HTC One SV??

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  110. Hi i have a sandisk ultra microsdhc uhs-1 or what ever it is . Anyways in my samsung note2 and it works. My problem is the 64gb does not can u help the format spot u cannot go to no mount u mount please help thanks duke6024@gmail.com

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